{"id":53,"date":"2015-07-03T01:37:50","date_gmt":"2015-07-02T23:37:50","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.lesba.sk\/herstory\/?p=53"},"modified":"2015-07-03T01:38:41","modified_gmt":"2015-07-02T23:38:41","slug":"rozhovor-s-christianom-havlickom","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.lesba.sk\/herstory\/2015\/07\/03\/rozhovor-s-christianom-havlickom\/","title":{"rendered":"Rozhovor s Christi\u00e1nom Havl\u00ed\u010dkom"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>\u010co sa u teba udialo za tie zhruba dva roky od za\u010diatku projektu HerStory (2009) po dnes?<br \/>\n<\/strong>Ke\u010f\u017ee sme rozhovor to\u010dili teraz, to \u010do sa u\u00a0mna udialo za dva roky je sp\u00e4tne k\u00a0rozhovoruJ Do\u0161tudoval som, zmenil \u00faradn\u00e9 pohlavie, na\u0161iel Mo\u017enos\u0165 vo\u013eby a\u00a0v nej pr\u00e1cu, ktor\u00e1 ma bav\u00ed. Spoluzalo\u017eil TransF\u00fazia, prv\u00fa iniciat\u00edvu podporuj\u00facu trans \u013eud\u00ed na Slovensku. Zistil som ak\u00e1 je dobr\u00e1 prax pre \u201ezmenu pohlavia\u201c, zreflektoval t\u00fa svoju na Slovensku a\u00a0vyhodnotil tento proces ako nie ide\u00e1lny, uvidel v sebe stereotypy (rodov\u00e9 i\u00a0in\u00e9) a\u00a0zbavil sa ich.<br \/>\n<strong>Sk\u00fas zhrn\u00fa\u0165 tak\u00fd mal\u00fd seri\u00f3zny \u017eivotopis&#8230;<br \/>\n<\/strong>Christi\u00e1n Havl\u00ed\u010dek (1986) trans aktivista, feminista, sociol\u00f3g. Spoluzakladate\u013e\u00a0TransF\u00fazie, prvej iniciat\u00edvy podporuj\u00facej trans \u013eud\u00ed na Slovensku (2010 &#8211; &#8230;) a \u010dlen feministickej mimovl\u00e1dnej organiz\u00e1cie Mo\u017enos\u0165 vo\u013eby (2010 &#8211; &#8230;).<br \/>\n<strong>V akej rodine si sa narodil? Ako tvoja rodina vn\u00edmala inakosti predt\u00fdm, ne\u017e sa dozvedela o tej tvojej? Zmenilo sa nie\u010do na postoji rodiny (pr\u00edpadne okolia) k tebe a na tvojom k nej?<\/strong><br \/>\nZa najbli\u017e\u0161iu rodinu pova\u017eujem t\u00fa p\u00f4vodom od mamy, rodinu Havl\u00ed\u010dkovu. Po nej som si vzal meno. Mil\u00ed \u013eudia z\u00a0\u010desk\u00e9ho mesta. S\u00fadr\u017en\u00ed, bezkonfliktn\u00ed. S\u00a0LGBT t\u00e9mou nemali ve\u013ea sk\u00fasenost\u00ed. S\u00a0trans t\u00e9mou \u017eiadne. Nikdy mi ni\u010d nevy\u010d\u00edtali, ani v\u00a0za\u010diatkoch, ale mali trocha odstup, strach(?) z\u00a0dovtedy nepoznan\u00e9ho. V\u0161etko sme si vysvetlili a v\u0161etci porozumeli. Neviem, \u010di sa zmenil ich postoj ku mne, ale rozhodne sa zmenil ich postoj k\u00a0trans \u013eu\u010fom. Pozit\u00edvne.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u010co bolo t\u00fdm posledn\u00fdm impulzom, pre ktor\u00fd si sa rozhodol o\u00a0svojej inakosti hovori\u0165 otvorene a\/ doma, b\/ medzi priate\u013emi c\/ v\u00a0pr\u00e1ci (\u0161kole) d\/ verejne (pre HerStory, pre divadlo, pre nejak\u00e9 in\u00e9 m\u00e9di\u00e1). Ako ovplyvnila tvoj \u017eivot va\u0161a otvorenos\u0165? \u017dije\u0161 odvtedy lep\u0161ie? Alebo?<\/strong><br \/>\nPri rodine, priate\u013eoch a\u00a0v \u0161kole som nemal pri commingoute na v\u00fdber, ak som chcel, aby ma vn\u00edmali tak ako som chcel. Tento bod (\u010das) bol rozhod\u00fajuci. A\u00a0verejnos\u0165 pri\u0161la potom, tie\u017e nevyhnutne, ke\u010f som videl, ak\u00e9 s\u00fa postoje \u013eud\u00ed \u00a0k\u00a0trans problematike, stav trans problematiky \u00a0na Slovensku a\u00a0ke\u010f som videl trans \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00ed v\u0161etci do jedn\u00e9ho h\u013eadaj\u00fa \u201eniekoho\u201c ako oni. Som teraz spokojn\u00fd.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ur\u010dite u\u017e za tie minim\u00e1lne dva roky vie\u0161, ako vyzer\u00e1 a\u00a0ak\u00e1 asi je lesbick\u00e1 \u2013 a\u00a0trans \u2013komunita na Slovensku. Ak\u00e1 je pod\u013ea teba? \u010co je na nej dobr\u00e9 a\u00a0\u010do naopak jej ch\u00fdba? \u010co by si jej doprial?<\/strong><br \/>\n\u010co by som doprial lesbickej komunite \u2013 hrdos\u0165, v\u0161etky pr\u00e1va, ktor\u00e9 ma heterosexu\u00e1lna v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ina a\u00a0spolo\u010dnos\u0165 otvoren\u00fa diverzite. To, aby lesbick\u00e1 komunita r\u00e1stla a stavala na spojen\u00ed \u0161pecifickej kult\u00fary a\u00a0umenia. A k\u00a0trans komunite? Ak poviem \u017ee trans komunita na Slovensku existuje, mus\u00edm doda\u0165, \u017ee je to nie\u010do ve\u013emi jemn\u00e9. \u013dudia spojen\u00ed priate\u013estvom, roztr\u00fasen\u00ed, v\u00a0mal\u00fdch sie\u0165ach s\u00a0rozli\u010dn\u00fdm i\u00a0podobn\u00fdm vn\u00edman\u00edm trans vec\u00ed. To \u010do ch\u00fdba trans \u013eudom na Slovensku je chu\u0165 a\u00a0sila participova\u0165. Ne\u010dudo \u2013 to, \u010do to cel\u00e9 s\u0165a\u017euje a\u00a0nepom\u00e1ha je slovensk\u00e9 prostredie, konzervat\u00edvne v\u00a0postojoch, \u017eij\u00face v\u00a0stereotypoch. No napriek tomu trans \u013eudia maj\u00fa svoju \u0161pecifick\u00fa subkult\u00faru, spolo\u010dn\u00fa re\u010d, ide\u00e1ly.\u00a0Trans komunite by som doprial menej stereotypov ako v\u00a0spolo\u010dnosti, tak i\u00a0v nich sam\u00fdch, uvo\u013enenie a rozvoj umenia s\u00a0trans tematikou.<br \/>\n<strong>Kde stoj\u00ed\u0161 v r\u00e1mci n\u00e1zorov na potrebu pr\u00e1vneho rie\u0161enia LGBT vz\u0165ahov (samostatn\u00e9 zmluvy, registrovan\u00e9 partnerstvo, man\u017eelstvo, adopcie)? A pre\u010do pr\u00e1ve tam?<\/strong><br \/>\nMan\u017eelstvo rovnakopohlavn\u00fdch p\u00e1rov a\u00a0mo\u017enos\u0165 vo\u013eby rodu a\u00a0pohlavia. Netreba to vysvet\u013eova\u0165 viac ako takto: rovnakopohlavn\u00e9 pary s\u00fa a\u00a0niektor\u00ed z\u00a0n\u00e1s si rod a\u00a0pohlavie vol\u00edme a je len nedostatkom na\u0161ich in\u0161tit\u00faci\u00ed a\u00a0n\u00e1s, \u017ee to nereflektujeme (v\u00a0legislat\u00edve). Man\u017eelstvo pre m\u0148a nem\u00e1 \u0161pecifick\u00fa hodnotu, je to zau\u017e\u00edvan\u00fd typ zv\u00e4zku, vzor spr\u00e1vania \u2013 soci\u00e1lna in\u0161tit\u00facia, vypl\u00fdvaj\u00fa v\u0161ak z\u00a0neho v\u00fdhody, ktor\u00e9 musia by\u0165 pr\u00edstupne v\u0161etk\u00fdm. K\u00a0vo\u013ebe rodu a\u00a0pohlavia vlastn\u00fdm rozhodnut\u00edm som sa priklonil hne\u010f potom, ako som pochopil, \u017ee o\u00a0\u00faradnom pohlav\u00ed rozhoduj\u00fa lek\u00e1ri \u2013 \u010di je to \u00faradn\u00edk, ktor\u00e9mu o tom poviete, alebo lek\u00e1r, by v\u00a0z\u00e1sade nehralo rolu, ak by im \u010dlovek nemusel dokazova\u0165 normativitu, ak by ho nen\u00fatili k steriliz\u00e1cii&#8230;<br \/>\n<strong>\u010co najviac ch\u00fdba Slov\u00e1kom a Slovenk\u00e1m \u013eudsky \u010di ob\u010diansky, aby boli s schopn\u00ed\/e \u201enorm\u00e1lne\u201c pozera\u0165 na inakosti a\u00a0na potreby men\u0161\u00edn (zvl\u00e1\u0161\u0165 tej na\u0161ej, samozrejme). To iste sa p\u00fdtam aj smerom na parlament a vl\u00e1du \u2013 \u010do im ch\u00fdba alebo naopak, \u010do maj\u00fa<br \/>\nnavy\u0161e, \u017ee sa n\u00e1m nedar\u00ed ich z\u00edska\u0165 pre na\u0161e my\u0161lienky.<\/strong><br \/>\nV\u00a0oboch pr\u00edpadoch vzdelanie. Vzdelanie v\u00a0oblasti \u013eudsk\u00fdch pr\u00e1v. Empatia. \u00dacta. Citlivos\u0165. Toto, predpoklad\u00e1m, ch\u00fdba homof\u00f3bnym, transf\u00f3bnym a\u00a0inako-f\u00f3bnym jedincom. A\u00a0ak to nie je a\u017e tak\u00e9 zl\u00e9, tak ch\u00fdba &#8222;len&#8220; z\u00e1ujem v\u0161eobecne.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u010co \u0165a bav\u00ed \u2013 muzika, kni\u017eky, \u0161porty, \u010doko\u013evek&#8230;?<\/strong><br \/>\n\u010co m\u00e1m r\u00e1d a\u00a0\u010do ma bav\u00ed? Turistika na Slovensku,\u00a0v\u00fdlety, hrady, z\u00e1mky, divadlo, sci-fi a\u00a0dystopick\u00e9 filmy a rom\u00e1ny, sociol\u00f3gia, dlh\u00e9 rozhovory, rastliny i\u00a0kvety a stromy, zbieram kamene z\u00a0miest, kde som bol, \u010falej hudba, r\u00e1d tancujem, var\u00edm, vym\u00fd\u0161\u013eam nov\u00e9 recepty, r\u00e1d pe\u010diem (d\u00fahove kol\u00e1\u010de a torty) a r\u00e1d upratujem, prer\u00e1bam izbu, vym\u00fd\u0161\u013eam zlep\u0161ovania, prer\u00e1bam star\u00fd n\u00e1bytok, r\u00e1d p\u00ed\u0161em. A m\u00e1m r\u00e1d a zvierat\u00e1; psy, tie milujem.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Toto by bol z\u00e1klad, ale ak chcete nap\u00edsa\u0165 \u010doko\u013evek \u010fal\u0161ie, bude to super. Pr\u00edpadne prilo\u017ete nejak\u00e9 va\u0161e veci \u2013 blogovanie, poviedky, po\u00e9ziu, fotky va\u0161e \u010di od v\u00e1s, \u010doko\u013evek, \u010do tvor\u00edte).<br \/>\n<\/strong>Tu je m\u00f4j koment\u00e1r, ktor\u00fd som v\u00a0j\u00fali 2011 publikoval v\u00a0ob\u010dianskej pr\u00edlohe OSA denn\u00edka Pravda:<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rod ako vo\u013eba<br \/>\n<\/strong>Christi\u00e1n Havl\u00ed\u010dek, Mo\u017enos\u0165 vo\u013eby a TransF\u00fazia<\/p>\n<p>V polovici. j\u00fana 2011 prijala Rada OSN pre \u013eudsk\u00e9 pr\u00e1va rezol\u00faciu, ktor\u00e1 uzn\u00e1va, \u017ee rodov\u00e1 identita m\u00f4\u017ee by\u0165 jedn\u00fdm z diskrimina\u010dn\u00fdch faktorov. T\u00e1to problematika sa a\u017e teraz(!) st\u00e1va s\u00fa\u010das\u0165ou \u013eudskopr\u00e1vnej agendy. Po\u010fme si poveda\u0165, \u010do v praxi rodov\u00e1 identita a diskrimin\u00e1cia na z\u00e1klade nej znamen\u00e1 a ak\u00fd sign\u00e1l smerom k n\u00e1m rezol\u00facia vyslala.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Rodov\u00e1 identita<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Ka\u017ed\u00fd a ka\u017ed\u00e1 z n\u00e1s m\u00e1 svoje \u0161pecifik\u00e1 \u2013 v\u0161etci a v\u0161etky m\u00e1me sk\u00fasenos\u0165 s t\u00fdm, \u017ee nezapad\u00e1me do niektorej \u0161katu\u013eky. Vybo\u010dujeme, nechceme by\u0165 identick\u00ed a bojujeme s t\u00fdm v r\u00e1mci na\u0161ich \u017eivotov. V\u00e4\u010d\u0161ina z n\u00e1s nevedome. Ale potom m\u00e1me \u0161ancu vidie\u0165 i mnoh\u00e9 menej skryt\u00e9 pr\u00edbehy. Lesieb, ktor\u00e9 nerie\u0161ia m\u00fdtus kr\u00e1sy a ani nechc\u00fa, gejov, ktor\u00ed nezodpovedaj\u00fa predstave maskul\u00ednneho heterosexu\u00e1la a ani nechc\u00fa, a transrodov\u00fdch \u013eud\u00ed, ktor\u00ed musia denne \u010deli\u0165 odmietaniu, posme\u0161kom a a\u017e pr\u00edli\u0161 \u010dasto ot\u00e1zke \u010do si? namiesto kto si?. O negat\u00edvnych odozv\u00e1ch pri h\u013eadan\u00ed zamestnania, probl\u00e9moch s in\u0161tit\u00faciami a dokladmi, necitlivom spr\u00e1van\u00ed sa lek\u00e1rov, predsudkov rod\u00edn svojich partnerov \u010di partneriek ani nehovoriac. Pritom chc\u00fa (a \u017eiadaj\u00fa) len \u017ei\u0165 svoj \u017eivot, ako to c\u00edtia \u2013 bez toho, aby ich niekto diagnostikoval, bez toho, aby ich niekto (bezpr\u00e1vne) oberal o org\u00e1ny, bez toho, aby museli st\u00e1le niekoho presvied\u010da\u0165, \u017ee s\u00fa on alebo ona. Verte, to mus\u00edme v\u0161etky a v\u0161etci, a ak to nerob\u00edme, schyt\u00e1me pomyseln\u00fa facku, \u010di uz v \u0161kole, v pr\u00e1ci, na \u00farade, v nemocnici, od rodiny, od priate\u013eov, od celkom nezn\u00e1mych \u013eud\u00ed na ulici za to, \u017ee sa nespr\u00e1vame ako spr\u00e1vny chlap \u010di spr\u00e1vna \u017eena. Bin\u00e1rny rodov\u00fd poriadok sa n\u00e1s sna\u017e\u00ed pr\u00edsne rozdeli\u0165 do \u0161katuliek \u017eena a mu\u017e. Ni\u010d medzi t\u00fdm. \u017diadna mo\u017enos\u0165 spriechodni\u0165 hranice. Pritom tento poriadok nie je a ani nebol historicky \u010di geograficky univerz\u00e1lny, ale my, d\u00f4veruj\u00fac v nemennos\u0165 a funk\u010dnos\u0165 do\u010dasne zau\u017e\u00edvan\u00fdch in\u0161tit\u00faci\u00ed, ober\u00e1me seba i in\u00fdch o rozmanitos\u0165. Aj v\u00a0tomto&#8230;<\/p>\n<p><strong>O \u010dom hovor\u00ed nov\u00e1 rezol\u00facia<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>O v\u00e4\u010d\u0161ej slobode, o mo\u017enosti vo\u013eby, o tom, \u017ee \u010dlovek m\u00f4\u017ee pre\u017e\u00edva\u0165 svoju identitu, \u017ee si m\u00f4\u017ee s\u00e1m ur\u010di\u0165 svoj rod, pr\u00edpadne i \u201eleg\u00e1lne\u201c pohlavie a \u017ei\u0165 svoj \u017eivot bez obmedzenia rodov\u00fdmi stereotypmi a bez diskrimin\u00e1cie. Pr\u00edkladom mal\u00e9ho slobodn\u00e9ho sveta n\u00e1m m\u00f4\u017ee by\u0165 Egalia, rodovo neutr\u00e1lna \u0161k\u00f4lka vo \u0160v\u00e9dsku, v ktorej sa deti u\u010dia ne\u0161katu\u013ekova\u0165. N\u00e1jdeme v nej \u201epriate\u013eov\u201c namiesto diev\u010dat a chlapcov, vychov\u00e1vatelia pou\u017e\u00edvaj\u00fa rodovo neutr\u00e1lny jazyk, rozmiestnenie hra\u010diek prep\u00e1ja tie, ktor\u00e9 s\u00fa be\u017ene predkladan\u00e9 diev\u010dat\u00e1m s t\u00fdmi, ktor\u00e9 pods\u00favame chlapcom, v pr\u00edbehoch sa deti nau\u010dia vn\u00edma\u0165 rozmanitos\u0165 jednorodi\u010dovsk\u00fdch a\u00a0nehetero rod\u00edn \u010di adopci\u00ed. Eg\u00e1lia d\u00e1va de\u0165om pr\u00edle\u017eitos\u0165 by\u0165 tak\u00fdmi, ak\u00fdmi t\u00fa\u017eia by\u0165.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u010co sa u teba udialo za tie zhruba dva roky od za\u010diatku projektu HerStory (2009) po dnes? Ke\u010f\u017ee sme rozhovor to\u010dili teraz, to \u010do sa u\u00a0mna udialo za dva roky je sp\u00e4tne k\u00a0rozhovoruJ Do\u0161tudoval som, zmenil \u00faradn\u00e9 pohlavie, na\u0161iel Mo\u017enos\u0165 vo\u013eby a\u00a0v nej pr\u00e1cu, ktor\u00e1 ma bav\u00ed. 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